Timeline for Is converting link-only answers to Community Wiki working?
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| Sep 7, 2017 at 0:39 | history | edited | Brick | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Responded to comments. Added example.
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| Sep 6, 2017 at 17:47 | comment | added | Brick | @Ghanima OTOH the small size of the community makes it more important to conform to the workflows of the larger communities, not less important. Expecting qualified users experienced on other sites to learn a different workflow here doesn't make sense and will ultimately discourage them from participating. As noted on another question, there's a lot of overlap here with other sites. Having users from those sites also contributing here is essential. New users on other sites make it - No reason they can't here too. The system DOES provide comments - They are not left without feedback. | |
| Sep 6, 2017 at 17:37 | comment | added | Ghanima Mod | Sorry, but this is not about re-inventing SE... but this is a small community and not SO. It is thus more important to embrace new members and guide them lightly to understand our rules. Not deleting posts on the first flag but instead offering a comment and a grace period to improve it is one way to do this. I really think that giving some more leeway here compared to the high volume sites like SO is acceptable. Granted, the community wikification of the posts might not have been the best approach on top of that but that is exactly why it is discussed here. | |
| Sep 6, 2017 at 17:19 | comment | added | Brick | It seems like the admins on this site keep trying to re-invent SE rather than embracing it. Why make your life harder (and ours too)? I've seen several "initiatives" here that seem genuinely well-intentioned but ultimately by-pass the peer review process in favor some a new hack invented by the admins. I see no reason that you should try to defeat the standard work flow / review process on this. @Ghanima | |
| Sep 6, 2017 at 17:17 | comment | added | Brick | I've been working the VLQ queue on stackoverflow recently. The menus give several canned reasons for recommending to delete, which generate an automated comment when selected. It's not mandatory in the sense that one option is "No comment needed" - although when hitting that one, it's usually bad, bad, bad. The person answering should get those comments and have a chance to reply. Even if deleted, they can revise and / or post a new answer learning from their mistake. @Ghanima | |
| Sep 6, 2017 at 17:10 | comment | added | Ghanima Mod | I am not sure whether the standard SE workflow includes a mandatory comment and a grace period before deletion... but that might actually be the point worth considering here. It however only slightly simplifies the whole process as we still need to track the posts that are tagged and re-visit them after the grace period. Need to look into some helpful userscripts then, @Aurora0001. | |
| Sep 6, 2017 at 11:39 | comment | added | Brick | My internet dropped during storm while finishing previous comment... @Ghanima If I understand your last comment, that's the usual SE process, right? If so, then I agree with that and I think it matches my answer. The site is going to become irrelevant if the answers aren't generally good for long periods of time. When I have a programming question, I scan the top Google hits for SE first. Am I going to do that for Raspberry Pi? Depends on whether I consistently get high quality answers. In this regard, it's better for questions to have no answer than low quality answers. | |
| Sep 5, 2017 at 22:17 | comment | added | Brick | Giving people a nudge to improve their answer is fine. The non-standard policy of community wiki is an issue. You really want something different than SE. The SE concept is to have answers with archival value, not just immediate value to those answering. I stand by the point that there's nothing unique about this SE instance with respect to the issues raised. Why not take this to the global meta for change across the SE universe if you think it makes sense? | |
| Sep 5, 2017 at 22:06 | comment | added | Ghanima Mod | ... OTOH it also does not really encourage editing by third parties either (which is probably why the numbers turn out the way Aurora presented them). So to get the best from it, I think it is worthwhile to reconsider the system and switch from "Link only answer" -> flag -> comment -> CW (if not edited) to flag -> comment -> delete (if not edited). This way we keep the benefit of encouraging the OP to edit and improve the answer. | |
| Sep 5, 2017 at 22:02 | comment | added | Ghanima Mod | There are, however, at least two points to consider. Some of those posting link only answers follow the advice given via a comment and edit their answer (as I was commenting to Aurora's question, that have been at least 20 posts that have been salvaged over the last months since starting this method). That is a small but real benefit. Second, I disagree that editing VLQ posts should be discouraged since it actually does not reward the OP of the post (if it is community wiki nobody gets any reputation). ... | |
| Sep 5, 2017 at 15:41 | history | answered | Brick | CC BY-SA 3.0 |